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zenbitz
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« on: March 11, 2009, 08:13:22 PM »

these are buried in a brainstorming thread here.

Here are some links I found re: Cold-war era soviet plans (inc.  Scandavia).

Please use this thread for links and pointers to source material for WRITERS (there is an equiv. in graphics, I think)

Basically a link dump from todays googling:  The upshot is that I was "way off" on Soviet war plans to deal with Scandanvia.
Much of the following (particuarly the links labed "JACKPOT") are pretty good background.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/nuclearwar1.html - effect of nuclear war
http://www.php.isn.ethz.ch/collections/colltopic.cfm?lng=en&id=16239&navinfo=15365 - 1963 Warsaw Pact attack plan (in English, Russian, Czech)
http://www.php.isn.ethz.ch/collections/colltopic.cfm?lng=en&id=16606 - 1965 Hungarian war game plan, Vienna, Munich, Verona destroyed...

Also on this site, but summary is interesting:
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A Landing Operation in Denmark
The Polish Military's Losses in the First Phase of a Warsaw Pact Offensive Were to Reach 50 Percent
Oct 2002
Description: This is a report on Polish war plans from 1956 to 1970. The Polish general staff planned to create a northern European maritime front within the Warsaw Pact. In case of war, the main thrust of Poland's forces was to be directed towards Jutland, the Elbe, and the German-Danish border. In the second phase of attack, the Polish forces were to advance towards the northern German plains and the Netherlands. However, the Polish Fourth Army had a different task - it was to act in combination with the pact's United Fleet to conduct a landing operation on the Danish islands and and secure access to the North Sea. Tactical nuclear strikes against enemy forces and Danish urban areas were part of the war plans.

Unable to find even a "projected" or "guessitimate" european target list - although the Russians were convinced NATO was going to knock the stuffing out of Poland...

JACKPOT!
http://www.php.isn.ethz.ch/collections/gallery.cfm?id=46465  - correct google-fu was "soviet plan sweden"
http://www.php.isn.ethz.ch/collections/coll_sovthreat/Introduction.cfm?navinfo=46465 has bigger versions of the pix with text.

one more edit, because it specifically mentions chemical weapons:  This is from the same source as above - the Polish armies were to attack through Germany through Denmark (and parts of Southern Sweden)

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The attack on Jutland would be facilitated through Russian airborne troops taking the Kiel Canal at an early stage. East German units would take part in landing on the islands. The Soviet Baltic Fleet would open up the Danish sounds and the East German Navy the Kiel Canal. The landing areas on the Danish islands were to be attacked first using highly volatile chemical weapons.
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2009, 10:44:49 AM »

Definitely useful stuff. Do you think it might be useful to also have a wiki article to collet these links?
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2009, 08:46:46 PM »

if someone wants to organize the writing wiki they could do so.
We should probably have forum->wiki (or vice versa) though.  I think the wiki post barrier is (slightly) higher.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2009, 12:03:49 PM »

Yp, forum to wiki sounds cool. Forum for gathering information and discussion, wiki for storing links in a more organised manner. Perhaps I'll create a writing link depository.
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 09:52:41 PM »

http://orbat.com/site/history/historical/nato/warsawpact.html

The Warsaw Pact OOB I'm using when writing the WW3.

http://www.microarmormayhem.com/NATO_ORDER_OF_BATTLE_mod_8.doc

And similar NATO and unaligned countries one.

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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 11:27:17 PM »

Would it be useful to rate each link as they're being found, so we can monitor what's added to the Wiki to be used as source material?
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 07:31:40 PM »

I found this really cool article of a guy who recently did a tour of Chernobyl, it's interesting in general but i thought it would be good to set the mood/for reference for PARPG. Enjoy!

http://www.grcade.com/viewtopic.php?t=2217
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2009, 11:15:18 PM »

I found this really cool article of a guy who recently did a tour of Chernobyl, it's interesting in general but i thought it would be good to set the mood/for reference for PARPG. Enjoy!

http://www.grcade.com/viewtopic.php?t=2217

That really was great!
The pictures of the last half of the tour are a source of spooky inspiration. Who wouldn't have chills wandering through a desolate playground?
I think the artists should take a look at this.
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2009, 05:48:55 PM »

Here's a couple of links to wikipedia sites for older post-apoc shows and films.
"The Day After" actually features the Able Archer 83 in action, it is hinted at in radio/television reports throughout the film.

The plots might provide some inspiration for quests or character types etc, even some peculiarities for the setting.


I like how they tell stories about simple people trying to survive, it's not an epic one-man show with Denzel Washington running against the clock to save the world singlehandedly (again, or what's left of it). Also the mood in all of these is pretty damn grim - imo we should strive for that.
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